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WHAT IS A MKIV SUPRA?
The MKIV (mark four) Supra is the fourth model generation of Toyota's Supra. It has an inline 6 cylinder 3 litre dohc 24 valve motor (2JZGTE) with twin sequential turbos rated at 320hp for the export model (outside japan) and 280hp for the japanese domestic market model. It is suspected that the export model at least is slightly underrated in this aspect.
CARS CAN'T BEAT BIKES CAN THEY?
Actually, yes. Bikes have a nasty coefficient of drag, typically around .5-.6, vs around .32 for a typical modern car. Even though cars weigh substantially more than bikes, the importance of aerodynamic drag at high speed becomes much more a factor than weight. A car needs a big chunk of horsepower to beat a bike, but it can be done, especially at highway speeds and up.
SO THIS IS JUST ANOTHER IMPORT?
The MKIV Supra is far from just another import. Name one other car that can produce in excess of 900hp on factory engine internals! Toyota's attention to detail and philosophy of extraordinary over-engineering for the Supra's 2JZGTE engine makes this possible. Several Supras have trap speeds in excess of 140mph in the quarter mile, on unopened engines. This is a completely alien concept to the old school aspirated v8 brigade.
ARE MARK3 SUPRAS WELCOME TO JOIN TO4R.COM?
Yes and no; we would like to focus on the 2JZ-GTE engine even though we have alot of respect for the 7M-GTE. If you have a mk3 Supra with a 2JZ-GTE transplant, meet the hp requirements and have extraordinary build quality you will be eligible for membership. We are always interested in engine build-up projects so let us know what you are doing.
I WANT TO BUY A SUPRA BUT CANT FIND ANY FOR SALE, ANY SUGGESTIONS?
Ever since the (horrible) movie "The Fast & Furious" came out the Supra has gained even more overall popularity and a younger generation of drivers have started to show interest in the MKIV Supra. Prices of the car has increased due to the high demand of the vehicle, you will soon realize that prices of these cars will vary with the owner. Here are some good websites to start searching for the Toyota Supra:
Guncel Blog,Teknoloji
Muzik Dinle
Teknoloji Blogu
www.thepartstrader.com
www.ebay.com
www.autotrader.com
I HAVE FOUND THIS BEAUTIFUL SUPRA FOR SALE, ANY SUGGESTIONS ON WHAT TO LOOK FOR IF THE CAR HAS BEEN ABUSED OR POORLY MAINTAINED?
First off, don't fall in love with the car until it is yours. Too many people make the mistake of being blinded with love for a vehicle and over-looking it's flaws and value. This is a pretty touchy subject, but always remember to be sensible.... it is only a car and there are others out there.
Get all documents on the car, do a car-fax/VIN search. Does the current owner have a history of maintenance? Can he prove what has been done to the car and can he explain whatever faults are present on the vehicle as you see it? Is the car fully insured by the present owner? What kind of character does the current owner have? Is he the first owner? Second owner? Does he know anything about the previous owner?..... all these questions and more should be rumbling through your mind as you look at the vehicle. You need to be focused and very business like, never assume or take anything for granted. Check everything on the car, make sure all little things work, for example the windows, tape player, hood latch etc. Think of it this way, the current owner wants as much as he can for the car, he doesn't know you and probably doesn't care about you. Always assume that he is a crook until proven otherwise.
Take the car for a test drive and let the owner drive it first, observe how he drives the car. Try to make him feel comfortable with you so he can drive the car naturally. Does he "get on it" before the engine is warmed up? Does he let the car cool off after displaying its power or does he just shut it off? These are two major signs of how the car has been treated. Remember that turbo charged cars are very temperamental and need extra care, it is not healthy to step on the throttle before all oils are hot, this causes a tremendous amount of load on the engine. The turbo system gets extremely hot while driving the car hard and if you turn the car off suddenly without doing any "cool-off" driving it could leave you with oil issues and or damaged turbos, usually 2-3 minutes at regular throttle would be sufficient to cool the turbo's down. Now you can take the car for a test spin, make sure to feel how it drives, don't be shy to step on the throttle but be careful you don't wreck the car.
Don't try to look for body repair work, that is way too hard. Instead run your fingers along all creases of the car, it is way easier to feel bondo than it is to see it. If car is wreck free it should always be smooth and not have any small bumps, cracks or other imperfections. Look in the engine bay and look for "over-spray", sometimes body shops get sloppy and forget to mask certain areas.
Take the car to a car technician, make sure you take it to someone you trust. Have them go over the car completely, do a cylinder compression check and make sure it is to factory standards. It might cost more to do this but it is cheaper than having to rebuild your engine a year from now. If you are buying a vehicle that already has after market modifications/parts on it make sure you have done your homework in that field. You would be surprised how stupid some Supra owners are when it comes to choosing after market parts for their cars. For example, if you see a big after market turbo on the car with stock fuel system and stock intercooler then something will blow up sooner or later, probably sooner.
When buying a car out-of-state, try to get as much info as possible before traveling to see the car. This is very dangerous because the seller will assume that you will buy the car no matter what because you have already made a commitment by flying over there to see the car. Good luck.
There are some things you wont find out about the car and you have to live with that, those are the consequences of buying a used vehicle. The build quality of the Supra is amazing and high miles should not scare you too much, I know alot of guys with 100.000 miles on the odometer with no problems. As long as the car has had sensible owner(s) it should last a long time. We all learn from our own experiences so it would be hard for us to answer all possible scenarios but this is a good starting point. Remember, it is more of a mentality than anything.
The FAQ section is still in its infancy. If you have a question that you would like answered, send an email to Nils or John.
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